ARB: April 12th 2018

ARCHITECTURAL REVIEW BOARD
MEETING MINUTES
Mayfield Village
April 12, 2018

The Architectural Review Board met in regular session on Thurs, April 12, 2018 at 6:30 p.m. at the Mayfield Village Civic Center Main Conference Room. Chairman Parker presided.       

ROLL CALL

Present: Mr. Ed Parker (Chairman), Mr. Carmen Miozzi (Chairman Pro Tem), Mr. Steven Varelmann, and Dr. Jim Triner

Also Present: Mr. John Marrelli (Building Commissioner) and Ms. Deborah Garbo (Secretary)

Consideration of Meeting Minutes: March 8th, 2018

ROLL CALL:

Ayes: All
Nays: None

Motion Carried. Minutes Approved as written.

PROPOSAL:

  1. In-Ground Pool
    Stephen & Pamela Schutt
    491 Hickory Hill Dr.
    Perfect In Ground Pool, Al Gulliford, Owner

OPEN PORTION:

Chairman Parker called the meeting to order. We have one item on the agenda tonight, an In Ground Pool at 491 Hickory Hill Dr. 

Steve Schutt introduced himself. In talking with Mr. Marrelli, I provided some pictures showing different views; first is with your back to the house going from left to right to the backyard, second is going from right to left, and the last is going from the rear. Where that dirt is, the buckets are where the four corners of the pool will be. The previous owner had a slab poured there for a basketball court that wasn’t in the greatest of shape. You can see the house has an existing deck and patio. When you’re going from the street towards the backyard, we have an existing hot tub on the right corner of that patio. On the far left of the existing deck is where the pool equipment pad will go. So, pool here, concrete and then fence around that. The shed will be part of like the fencing, the pool will have access to it, single door from the pool area and then double door on the right hand side, then a 12 x 14 pavilion in the back right corner of the pool area. We made sure we have all the clearance we needed on both the left & right side of the property, then obviously the back end is the Metro Parks behind us.

  • Concrete Area & Slide

Chairman Parker asked, this 23 foot setback, is that because of the zoning code?

Steve Schutt relied, I only wanted 4 feet there for concrete. 

Mr. Marrelli said, you could have made that wider if you wanted to.

Steve Schutt said, it was to have some more grass room on that side.

Chairman Parker said, it’s not a requirement, but you might want to consider having a couple more feet if you’re going to have a slide there, that 4 feet might be thin.

Al Gulliford, owner Perfect in Ground Pool introduced himself. I didn’t know he put that there. I usually put slides on the back side of the pool. If he’s going to put a slide there, we have to do at least 10 feet there because the slide takes up 8 feet and you have to be able to walk around that concrete. So we probably will not put the slide there.

Chairman Parker asked Steve, do you care where that slide goes?

Steve Schutt replied no, it doesn’t matter. 

Chairman Parker said, I think aesthetically it probably looks better in the back.

Al Gulliford said, it’ll block the shed too a little bit, so you don’t have to look at the shed.

Steve Schutt asked, so you recommend the back side for the slide?

Chairman Parker replied, if you wanted to leave the design as it is, I would say the back side. If you wanted to do it on the other side, you might want to look at exactly what that does.

Steve Schutt said, we’ll put it on the back end of it then.

Dr. Triner said, with the pavilion, it might look a little more balanced on the side, it would kind of balance out both sides of it.

Chairman Parker asked, so you’re saying the side might be better?

Al Gulliford said, that would be 6 more foot of concrete out that way. He’s got plenty of room on either side. It’s just how much money he wants to spend on concrete.

Chairman Parker said, another thing to consider is the width of that area where you put the fence in, should you want to add concrete later. My earlier comment was just that 4 feet seemed thin for the actual activity of the slide. Is that just plain concrete?

Al Gulliford replied, smooth proof finish. When you get into that much concrete at $6/foot, $12 for stamped and $18 - $22 for pavers, you can get into some serious money on pavers.

  • Pergola

Chairman Parker asked, the pergola, is that a pre-fab?

Al Gulliford replied, that’s not mine, not my area of expertise.

Mr. Marrelli replied, that’s a kit.

Mr. Miozzi asked, is that a standing seam metal roof on that?

Steve Schutt replied, yes.

Chairman Parker asked, is this considered part of the pool construction?

Mr. Marrelli replied, yes. It gets anchored into the ground so it doesn’t turn into a parachute. You have to pour a foundation under it, right?

Steve Schutt replied, yes. 

Al Gulliford said, he’s going to have to do footers.

Chairman Parker asked, if it’s part of the construction, how do you police it? Because people just go to Home Depot for it.

Mr. Marrelli replied, when we see them or the neighbor calls, we tell them they need a permit. We’ve issued about 2 or 3 permits for these already.

Al Gulliford asked, do we have to get a separate permit for that?

Mr. Marrelli replied, we’ll wrap it all up together. When you do the pool deck, you’re going to need to know where these feet are landing. You’ll have to box it out for him.

Al Gulliford replied, absolutely. It’s a structure, you need to go down 42 inches. We’ll pour around that and leave him space to do his footers there. Do you want to see the footer before we pour?

Mr. Marrelli replied, yes.

  • Barn Storage Building

Dr. Triner said, it’s too bad they don’t have a roof that matches the house more. It kind of stands alone. Do you think they have something available that would match more of the roof that’s on the house?

Chairman Parker asked, did you circle this one for the materials, or did you actually like the mansard barn roof?

Steve Schutt replied, it’s going to be that barn because of the additional overhead storage within the interior of the structure. I went even higher to have the loft and a couple shelves.

Chairman Parker said, I understand both comments aesthetically, but the function of it is what you need.

  • Equipment

Mr. Miozzi asked about the pool heater.  

Al Gulliford replied, it’s all self-contained. We don’t use sand filters anymore, that’s old technology, we don’t have any runoff, it’s all self-contained. You’ll mostly be adding water to it instead of taking water out. There’s no back rinsing, no flushing. We don’t use bottom drains anymore. This is my 24th year, all the problems I’ve seen with older pools, most always it’s the bottom drain. When you put 20,000 gallons of water at 8 pounds per gallon, it presses down on something, and you’re going to have problems with plumbing. We put in additional skimmers and returns to circulate the water. Most people use 1 skimmer & 2 returns, we do 2 skimmers and 2 returns. We have more of a circular flow of the water. We use salt water systems. We did 28 pools last year, all salt water and we’ve got 22 sold this year, all salt water. Everything’s going to be salt water in the next couple of years.

Dr. Triner said, just a thought about having a rinse off so you’re not sticking from salt water.

Al Gulliford said, actually it’s better for your skin than chlorine is. With chlorine, you definitely want to rinse off. That’s why all the resorts and hotels now are going to salt water.

Dr. Triner said, most of those when you get out from a swim, you have a fresh water rinse off.

Al Gulliford said, that’s a little bit more concentration of salt. Ocean water is 30,000 parts per Mm, we use 2,800 to 3,200 parts. I understand when you want to get the salt water off you, but it’s not like swimming in the ocean. You don’t taste it, you don’t smell it. It’s a better system, better for the skin, for your hair and better for the kids if they ingest it into their body. The biggest misconception is the kids are in the pool all day until they’re sick from the sun, actually they’re sick from ingesting pure chlorine into their bodies. With the salt water, it’s a natural chemistry. They won’t get sick from it.

DECISION:

Mr. Varelmann, seconded by Dr. Triner made a motion to approve the In-Ground Pool for Stephen & Pamela Schutt at 491 Hickory Hill Dr as proposed.

ROLL CALL:

Ayes: Mr. Parker, Mr. Miozzi, Mr. Varelmann, and Dr. Triner
Nays: None

ADJOURNMENT:

There being no further business, Mr. Parker, seconded by Mr. Miozzi made a motion to adjourn the meeting.

ROLL CALL:

Ayes: All
None: None

Motion Carried. Meeting adjourned at 6:50 p.m.